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Thoughts on Deathly Hallows

  • 26th Jul, 2007 at 12:19 AM
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Short, because six days of London left me exhausted.

- Apparently Slytherin = evil. All the Slytherins leave the battle. Once Severus shows his bravery, Albus comments how he should have been a Gryffindor.
- Slash prevails because Severus lies (*off to swim in De Nile*), both to Albus and Voldie. Lily was a good friend. He blabbed about love because that's what Albus wanted to hear. (and because Albus didn't realise sometimes wizards fancy wizards).
- Speaking of that, no gays and lesbians in the wizarding world?! Ever? Anywhere? I'm not saying there should be gay snogging, but JK Rowling could have done so much more than she did. With just one line she could have given millions of kids the message "being queer is ok". It wouldn't even have to be overt, something like Remus grieving for Sirius, because they were so close, blablabla. But apparently JK doesn't feel so strongly.
EDIT: and this wouldn't bother me so much if JK didn't have two apparent queer characters in the books! Remus, commenting that "people don't want people like me teaching their children", an outcast because of the secret he carries around with him. And Tonks. With spikey pink hair (well yes, I'm a bit superficial on that account). What does she do with them? Instead of just leaving well enough alone, oh no, they marry each other. For crying out loud.
- Love. Blablabla. Love cures all. Give it a rest, JK.
- And the nazi parallels, for crying out loud.
- Neville!! Yay Neville!!
- Snape is not dead (as [info]snapetoy said= "no body, no portrait, no funeral").
- Yay Kreacher! And Trelawney!

About that epilogue: what bothered me (as [info]reddwarfer pointed out) was that Harry appears to live the life his parents would have. He looks like his father, marries a woman who looks like his mother (red hair) who's fancied him since he was 11, they have children named after his parents and mentor, he goes on in the career his father chose, etc etc. Isn't that a bit... sad? Where's HIS life? He shouldn't be stuck living the life of his parents, he should be making his own path.


Some questions:
- Did Greyback die twice? I thought Trelawney hit him over the head with a crystal ball? Or was that someone else?
EDIT: on page 519(UK edition) Greyback gets hit by one of Trelawney's chrystal balls and "he crumpled to the ground and did not move". A little later he pops up again. How did she comment on Severus? "He moved no more". Ah yes, Severus surviving is CANON, people. *swims in de nile*
- Hermione's middle name... I was always under the impression it was Jane, but now I read it was Jean. Did I just misread that?

I really enjoyed chapter one and the last half of the book. The bits in between... pff... but then that's mostly because of JK's Promoting of Her Happy Black And White Agenda.

To cheer everyone up: the master list of the rude bits

Comments

[info]theloa wrote:
25th Jul, 2007 23:30 (UTC)
Actually I kept thinking throughout the book that J.K was throwing in veiled/subconscious gayness in various situations. There was suggestive language all over the place. At least - my unstable mind kept picking up on it. I thought I'd make some icons if I could be bothered (I can't).

Aaaaand ... I just saw the link ot he rude bits. So it's just not me.

If I was in the mood to defend her I'd say that she's probably thought that the Christian fanatics hated her enough as it is ("Gay recruiting in Satan's Potter!! Burn burn burn!!!") and that Dumbledores relationship with whatisname when he was 17 screamed "GAY!!" from every page.

But in seriousness - there was ample opportunity for some brief gayness in the epilogue (all those new kids in the brave new 21st century magical world) and yet...

Still - I kind of loved it. Warts and all. Anything doing with Snape easily the best bits.
[info]rane_ab wrote:
26th Jul, 2007 14:58 (UTC)
Apparently Slytherin = evil.

Yeah, I was really going o_O at that. She seemed to go for grey areas earlier on, but apparently this doesn't work for Slytherins.

And yep, yay Kreacher and Trelawney!!! I don't remember about Greyback, but I'm thinking that getting hit by a crystal ball doesn't necessarily mean you're dead. Especially if you're a half-savage werewolf -- I expect he can take a few punches.
[info]madscot wrote:
26th Jul, 2007 15:21 (UTC)
Did anyone mention the Snape as a virgin theory at Sectus? I can't remember. I've got a feeling that it will spawn a few fics (always in love with Lily, blah, blah).
[info]jamaisneutral wrote:
26th Jul, 2007 16:25 (UTC)
Yep, they did mention it.

Lily? Who's Lily?
[info]jawnbc wrote:
27th Jul, 2007 18:04 (UTC)
I'm glad I read it--all of them, actually--and I'm satisfied with the ending.

But this book perhaps more than any of the others reads like a book written to be a movie script. And the last third of it she's clearly fatigued--you're right, she needed a better editor.
[info]hnpcc wrote:
28th Jul, 2007 06:14 (UTC)
you're right, she needed a better editor.

She's needed that since book 4.

I didn't mind it overall - I certainly didn't think all Slytherins left the battlefield (I'd have to go back and check though, reading the whole thing in one night means I may have skipped bits here and there. I totally thought Hagrid was dead until he turned up alive, and I'd no idea Tonks was dead for ages. Which depressed me quite a bit actually.) But God, the bit in the middle with Harry et al camping around the English countryside - cull it already! Sheesh, get to the freaking action! Talk about went on for about three chapters too long.

I kind of wished that there was some reconcilation with - I know, I know, of all people - Harry's aunt, uncle and cousin. There did seem to be quite an unconscious and yet strongly implied master race feeling at the end of the book there...
[info]jamaisneutral wrote:
28th Jul, 2007 10:42 (UTC)
It's in the part where all the students are in the great hall, and those who want to fight can stay, but all those underage must leave. At one point Pansy Parkinson (of all people) says "hey, let's hand Potter over to the dark lord, so we can live" and McGonnagal chucks her (well, her quite rightly) and the rest of the slytherins out. (page 491 in the UK book)
A bit later Harry comments that of those students remaining to fight, not one was slytherin.

(yes, it's a sore point for me ;-) )
[info]ringosdiamond wrote:
28th Jul, 2007 19:39 (UTC)
Welll, for what it's worth, the part with Harry and Draco's wand brought many slashy thoughts to mind ;D
( Yeeeees? )